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Lowang
Sun Feb 02 2014, 06:20p.m.
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Jæja þá er ég komin með jimny 1999 á 28" dekk .Er að fara breytta henni í 33" 1600 turbo.
Vélinn er úr Vitara og á að passa á gírkassann .Kaupi allt að útan hækkunar set ,Turbo intercooler .Sterkari öxlar að framan, læsingar fr og aftan .Hvað þarf ég meira ? .Billinn verður leiktæki

Kv Gunnar C
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arni907
Sun Feb 02 2014, 06:27p.m.
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hvar finnuru turbo kit? mátt endilega senda mér link
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Sævar
Sun Feb 02 2014, 06:46p.m.
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Ég er ekki viss um að gírkassinn passi milli J13A og G16B véla, það er allavega ekki svoleiðis að G16 og J18 eða J20 passi saman hvort sem um sjálfsskiptingu eða beinskiptingu er að ræða, Hinsvegar gæti verið að kúplingshúsið sjálft passi á milli og þá er þetta bara spurning um inntaksöxulinn hvort hann passi við kúplinguna


mér lýst vel á þetta hjá þér og það er örugglega hægt að gera spennandi leiktæki úr ~150hp 33" jimny
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Lowang
Sun Feb 02 2014, 06:49p.m.
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Sæll Sævar Vélin hjá mér heitir G13BB og 1,6 vélin er G16B þetta er sama blokkin G13B ,G15B ,G16B
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Lowang
Sun Feb 02 2014, 06:53p.m.
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Sæll Árni

Það er ekki hægt að fá kit í Jimny en þetta passar með smá breyttingum hingað og þangað

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1311.R1.TR4.TRC1.A0.Xsuzuki+swift+turbo&_nkw=suzuki+swift+turbo+kit&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Kv Gunnar

[ Edited Sun Feb 02 2014, 10:28p.m. ]
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olikol
Mon Feb 03 2014, 12:33a.m.
olikol

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er 99% viss um að G16B passar ekki á gírkassa á jimny. Hinsvegar passa allar 1300 vélar á milli fox/samurai/jimny, það er sama blokk og þar með sama gatadeiling á kúplingshúsinu. Einnig er sama kúpling í þeim. En vitaran er öðruvísi, efri boltagötin passa, en ekki þau neðri. Verður að smíða þér milliplötu og einnig breyta vélarfestingum líka eitthvað
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Brynjar
Mon Feb 03 2014, 10:50p.m.
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ég segji það sama og Óli og er alveg pottþéttur á að jimny kassi passi ekki á 1600cc vél.
ætlaru að smíða turbo pústgrein á 1600 vélina?
hvað ætlaru að gera til að stýra neista og bensíni?
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Lowang
Wed Feb 05 2014, 07:41p.m.
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Jæja veit ekki hvort jimny í hjá mönnum frá Land down under er öðruvísi .En þetta er gert hjá þeim
og ef það þarf að breyta og smiða þá er það minsta mál

Brynjar
ætlaru að smíða turbo pústgrein á 1600 vélina?
Hún kemur frá swift 1300 gti og passar með smá breytingum
hvað ætlaru að gera til að stýra neista og bensíni?
Neisti kemur frá kveikju sem er á Vélinni. Bensín kemur frá innspýting sem er á vélinni með 1800 spíssar ,1600 eru 216cc,1800 eru 270cc
Það þarf ekki að flækja þessu vegna þess að hún er bara að vinna á 0.7 bar þrýsting

Kv Gunnar C




The write up below is for putting a Baleno Engine into a Jimny. But with the comments below it should be clear about fitting the Vit / Grand Vit 1.6 engine as well.

You can use the Vitara 1.6 16v, Grand Vitara 1.6 16v or the Baleno 1.6 16v engines. It's best to go for the distributorless engine like the Jimny is - 2 coils on the cam cover. I used the Baleno engine as it was all I could find at the time.

If you use the Vitara / Grand Vitara there is a very good chance you wont need to swap the sump / mod the pickup pipe like I had to as the Baleno has the sump pot at the front not the back. Just look at the engine you buy and you'll be able to work out if it'll fit.
Also if using the Vitara / Grand Vitara engine you shouldn't need to replace the waterpump inlet pipe and the use the blanking plate on the cylinder head like you do with the Baleno engine as they should already be there.

OK from the bottom up Baleno 1.6 into a Jimny....
Sump:
I used the Jimny Sump and modded the Jimny Pickup pipe. The pickup pipe where it goes into the oil pump is wider on the 1.6, so I cut the end of the baleno pipe 1" down from where it goes into the pump, did the same thing with the Jimny Pipe and and welded the Jimny pickup to the baleno pump inlet pipe.
Also remember you need to drill and 6mm tap No. 4 main bearing cap with a blind hole for the mounting of the pickup pipe as well.
If your Jimny is a hard top then there's a good chance it doesn't have a crank sensor. Mine didn't. So you may will also have to address the issue that the baleno engine might have had. This could leave a hole that goes directly into the sump below the timing belt pulley.
Conversely if it's a soft top you may need the crank sensor so you'll need to make sure the baleno engine does have one!
Solution: Belzona!

Flywheel / Clutch:
Jimny one - Put a new clutch in while you're there.

Bell housing:
Either re-drill the block or buy an adapter plate. Same as the SJ conversion write up on here.
Note: If buying an adapter plate buy one that has the full ring around the bottom of the bellhousing. Every adapter plate I have seen was for an SJ and didn't accommodate for revised clutch cable on the Jimny. So we simply cut that bit of the plate out so that the clutch cable entry mount fitted snugly. You will also need to drill the top 2 gearbox bolt holes out to 12mm from 10mm so you'll need the bellhousing bolts from the Baleno as well if you can pinch them.
Also the countersunk bolts to mount the plate... They'll probably be 1.25mm pitch thread. The Jimny box is 1mm pitch. Most just graunch the bolts in. I re-threaded them to 1mm.

Starter motor.
The Jimny "fat" starter will not fit. You can either grind the block a bit OR get get the Skinny bosch starter fitted to some vitaras. I use the skinny starter.

Engine Mounts:
Driver's side engine mount will be about 30mm as the engine mount castings on the block are set about 30mm back from the G13BB ones. I went completely freestyle on this and made made my own mount from 6mm steel plate. I have read of people redrilling the bottom of the mount to accommodate for this move backwards so it's a case of have a look and decide how you want to proceed. Passenger side is a bolt on replacement.

Water pump inlet pipe.
Remove the Baleno one and chuck it! It's no use whatsoever.
Use the jimny one. You will need to make up a small flat bar mounting bracket to fit it to the block as the 1.6 engine the castings are about 30mm towards the back of the block. When you see it you'll understand. I also found the jimny pipe was a loose fit into the hole so I fitted a slightly oversized o-ring.


Baleno Thermostat on rear of the head:
Remove it and put on the blanking plate on from the back of the Jimny head.

Camshaft. If you have a Hardtop Jimny then it probably wont have a crank sensor. If it doesn't and the Baleno engine does then please pull the cam sensor off the back of the cam on the baleno engine. if you are lucky there'll be 11 pickup lugs on the end of the cam. if there's 2 then you need to use the jimny cam - I had to use the Jimny cam it just doesn't rev as hard (6000 + rpm) as the baleno.

Inlet manifold / Injectors. Use the Jimny manifold in it's entirety apart from you NEED the green injectors from the Baleno. It'll run on the orange jimny ones but it runs like a bag of poo! Also no need to change the ECU. The standard Jimny one works very well.

Exhaust Manifold.
Use the Jimny one complete with sensor but you'll need to put a dent in the exhaust pipe to make it clear the bottom of the block where the old gearbox bolt holes were.

I know the above may seem a bit daunting, but it is worth it.
You could always go down the 16V Grand Vitara 1.6 engine route and save yourself the mucking about with the sumps / pickup pipes and crank sensors as that should all fit nicely.


[ Edited Wed Feb 05 2014, 08:34p.m. ]
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Brynjar
Thu Feb 06 2014, 09:01p.m.
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hann tekur þarna framm að annað hvort þarf að fá milliplötu eða bora göt i blokkina, sem ég myndi alls ekki mæla með.
ælaru að kaupa svona pústgrein ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Turbo-Manifold-suits-Suzuki-Swift-GTi-G13B-exhaust-manifold-/200888646560?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ec5e57ba0&vxp=mtr

allar upplýsingar sem ég hef fundið um g16b spíssa segja að þeir flæði 172cc/min.
ég veit að spíssar úr wrx imprezum flæða 380cc og passa beint í, einnig úr 3 lítra v6 terrano þeir flæða um 300cc/min.
ætlaru að hækka bensín þrýstingin einhvað ?
helduru að blása 10 pund inná mótor á orginal tölvu og mappi sé í lagi? ég færi persónulega ekki hærra en 5-6 pund í blæstri áður en ég færi í alvöru stýringu.
en þessar vélar eru ólseigar og þola vel að láta blása inná sig á orginal innvolsi.

[ Edited Thu Feb 06 2014, 09:11p.m. ]
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